Remove guests access to E2

[Deucedemon]

That probably would be fairly easy to do, just like a sprayban or whatever.


And are holos something that are used a lot, or can they be restricted to Trusted +?

holos are used a lot both abusively and creatively. Holos do have a big part in making something so i would not restricted them to trusted+. holos are a big part in e2 creation. 

i'm just going to throw this out here. I was thinking of some groups like. only players in buildmode can use e2. or we make a new group that you have to request from admin. 

Also don't close or do anything to this thread yet @Zellogi know way more about e2 then me. he will probably go into more detail about it. i would like to see his response to this thread.

[Demonik1]

or we make a new group that you have to request from admin. 

So like maybe a trusted rank?  
Users should not have access to e2 so those who want to use it get added to trusted


Another point of this was change the nonexistent trusted rules, make it to where we can just give trusted to anyone who wanted to legitimently use e2.  Like watch them after we give it to them for 5 minutes and determine if they are good boys or not.

[Wayne]

So like maybe a trusted rank?  
Users should not have access to e2 so those who want to use it get added to trusted


Another point of this was change the nonexistent trusted rules, make it to where we can just give trusted to anyone who wanted to legitimently use e2.  Like watch them after we give it to them for 5 minutes and determine if they are good boys or not.

+Vouch this would be useful. Mostly because of blinders being so annoying. But it would make it not as abusive.

[Bengis]

+vouch e2 is broken as fuck pls nerf

[Zellogi]

Now I can finally respond to this.

All I ever see abuse-wise is blinders or prop kill madness, and it's relatively simple to see who's doing it by typing !e2, since the original creators of these E2s named them something obvious like "minge blind". Prop Kill Madness doesn't even work because of Falco's Prop Protection's anti-E2 mingery feature, which no-collides any prop manipulated with applyForce. E2 also has the potential to crash the server easily, but very few people know how to do this, even less without being caught. If the server crashed and the last thing that happened was someone spawning an E2 chip, it's likely they crashed the server so you can just ban them. Wanting to restrict something because it can be used for abuse is dumb when it can be used for many great things. If we restricted everything because it can be abused, there would be nothing left. Not even a server.

I think it should remain as is and the admins should do their job. If we restricted E2, it would piss off a lot of people and the server would be even less populated. Some users don't want to wait for an admin to trust them in order to use E2.

Something that can be done instead of restricting E2 altogether, maybe @SaintLuther can implement a ULX command that clears all holograms, if possible. There's built in features that let you block holograms clientsided from a certain player, but maybe they also added a way to clear them server sided? The command could be something like !clearholos. The reason this could help is to stop blinders, but also because holograms can lag the server if overused so people who aren't even aware that they're lagging the server could be banned.

[Dingus Khan]

+ vouch. E2 is used a lot to blind the players or crash the server. it needs more restrictions.

[Zellogi]

+ vouch. E2 is used a lot to blind the players or crash the server. it needs more restrictions.

You've never seen the things I've done with it though. I've made Sandbox fun with E2, and the functions I used are available to everyone, they just don't know which functions I used. 

[Demonik1]

You've never seen the things I've done with it though. I've made Sandbox fun with E2, and the functions I used are available to everyone, they just don't know which functions I used. 

You mean kinda like how you spawned in 2 nukes with E2 on Sandbox after you were demoted? I'm sure that was fun for you and showed the kind of cool things you can do with what tool.

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