Jon's Admin Abuse

[Pierces10]

I gotta say, the screenshot of him teleporting me and then putting me right back is definitely not something I cared about? If I had, I would have said something about it myself. Not that I don't appreciate you for caring, but I can handle myself.

As for noclipping, anytime Jon has noclipped with me in game, it was only ever as a joke to mess around with me, and he had my permission because I knew he was just messing around to get a laugh out of me.

Honestly this report is basically completely false and Jon will be fine, but Sans... this is wrong. Having fun is playing on the servers, not using commands. Abuse is abuse. If you aren't using commands to punish someone or enforce the rules, you shouldn't be using them. If it's literally you and a friend or a few friends, then it's not that big of a deal. But when randoms have to see it, they see admins using powers on others and essentially abusing. That's not exactly a good way to make people respect the admins on here.

ONLY USE COMMANDS TO PUNISH OR ENFORCE THE RULES. PERIOD.

[Plantain]

- vouch jon is a good staff member on the deathrun server and i have yet to see him abuse. Everytime he gets on he is very respectful

[Talvar]

First of all, The image in my previous post was simply showing that he uses no-clip at his leisure. I find it much easier to switch to spectator and cycle through players once i've received a report, since if you're alive you are either hiding or hunting, rather than flying through the map actively looking for someone to slay.

Secondly, as @KamilKenni said, these are just a few instances. I have seen Jon no-clip outside of the map borders as a prop on the Kakariko map, then fly inside a building as soon as Someone tries to shoot him. As well as going into the ground as a Kleiner(prop) with only a fraction of his head sticking out in a dark corner.
Jon has also granted no-clip to other players, not 100% sure, but I don't think that's allowed.

Thirdly, yes I was a bit upset with the -Vouch for my application, not because it was a -Vouch, but because there wasn't any explanation to go with it. The only thing that he wrote was:

I even asked him to elaborate, to which there was no response. I'm not going to give all of the details of that situation, but I can assure you it is an entirely separate issue that in no way prompted my post on this thread.

first off just because your salty because he -vouched you for a staff position doesnt mean you can be so salty and try to ruin his staff position next is that after reading this whole thread i have learned that in small lobbys he gives noclip for 10-20 secs and he no clips to easily to spot spots also there is nothing wrong with those screenshot with what i have read in this thread nhere is no reason this thread should still be active im giving a big face-palm to the person who created it and he has done nothing seemingly wrong without it being explained

also i mainly play deathrun and i load in after slay round its a common thing so everyone  can have fun and play the fame

[Potato10731]

"Look at the way you were acting prior to your admin application, when I confronted you would threw a little fit. Also look at the way you're acting after you got Declined."

I don't remember throwing a fit, if I did, sorry about that probably had a bad day or something.

"first off just because your salty because he -vouched you for a staff position doesnt mean you can be so salty and try to ruin his staff position..."

@SCMC Already stated that and I addressed that.
"Post hoc ergo propter hoc" - Correlation does not imply causation.


This whole issue is really centered around one question: "Did Jon Aboose?" Though cryptic as it may be, I THINK @Pierces10  answered this; Bolded for simplicity.

"Honestly this report is basically completely false and Jon will be fine, but Sans... this is wrong. Having fun is playing on the servers, not using commands. Abuse is abuse. If you aren't using commands to punish someone or enforce the rules, you shouldn't be using them. If it's literally you and a friend or a few friends, then it's not that big of a deal. But when randoms have to see it, they see admins using powers on others and essentially abusing. That's not exactly a good way to make people respect the admins on here. 

ONLY USE COMMANDS TO PUNISH OR ENFORCE THE RULES. PERIOD."

That is all I was trying to say. The Prop Hunt Operators get yelled at for using the !teleport command a few times to push a button on Awesome Building, yet Jon can admit to noclipping at least 5 times, and nothing happens. If there's anything to salty about, it is that ,not the -Vouch, which I don't even think counted since it didn't have a sufficient explanation  and it was denied due to no vouches rather than -Vouches. Do I hate Jon? No, hes a great player and good staff, just a little command-happy. Do I want him band? No. Do I want him demoted? not really. I just wanted someone of a higher position to confirm that he probably shouldn't be doing these things very often.

[Zellogi]

The Prop Hunt Operators get yelled at for using the !teleport command a few times to push a button on Awesome Building.

Why do you need to teleport? I know myself that I can hit 9/10 buttons within a minute, the only one I have a hard time with is the one in the library up in the corner, but well timed jumps can get me up there. Using a command to push the buttons faster is abuse too. Jon may have used noclip to hide, but he said each time he did, he was discovered almost immediately. 

I agree with @Pierces10 when he said commands should only be used to enforce rules.