Reset the DOOM weapons to their original state

[Demonik1]

So a bit of back story to these doom weapons for the new admins/players is that some of the weapons in this pack were very powerful, but because of that they were nerfed.  The problem with that is the weapons were nerfed so much not only are they not powerful, they are garbage, no one uses them because of how terrible they are.  In fact one of the more powerful doom weapons was the shotgun, this weapon was practically a one shot shotgun, which is okay because this is what shotguns should be like.  The new nerfed shotgun is a 3 - 4 shot weapon which is not ok.  Set it back to the addons original state

[13th TimeLord]

+vouch seems like the Doom go outdated by the Serious Sam and isn't really used that often anymore. So why not give it a go and set the original fun Doom to where they were in the first place

[Demonik1]

I added a gay ass poll since thats now required for server suggestions (actually retarded)

Please vote if you actually play sandbox dont vote just because you technically can

I made the vote public so remember that everyone can see what you voted for

[ParkRangerMon]

I voted no because I don't think they should be at their original state. I remember those days and it was a terrible mess. If we changed it, the DOOM weapons would be the only usable weapons, basically putting too much load space with other weapon packs that are now useless. However, I do think we should put them at a half-way point between what they were back in the day and what they are now.

[Demonik1]

I voted no because I don't think they should be at their original state. I remember those days and it was a terrible mess. If we changed it, the DOOM weapons would be the only usable weapons, basically putting too much load space with other weapon packs that are now useless. However, I do think we should put them at a half-way point between what they were back in the day and what they are now.

Ok that’s not even half true, it was not a mess with the weapons however they were a counter weapon pack to the over used and popular serious sam which if the doom weapons were reset to their original state would still not be as powerful as serious Sam

[Zellogi]

So you want a super shotgun that does 368 damage at point blank? A regular shotgun that does 168 point blank with faster shooting and twice as fast reloading? A chainsaw that one shots everyone as soon as you touch them? That's the only things changed in the weapons pack. I don't see any reason why we should have weapons that one shot people. Might as well add gbombs and mind's super battle pack which are full of them if that's what you want sandbox to be.

[Demonik1]

So you want a super shotgun that does 368 damage at point blank? A regular shotgun that does 168 point blank with faster shooting and twice as fast reloading? A chainsaw that one shots everyone as soon as you touch them? That's the only things changed in the weapons pack. I don't see any reason why we should have weapons that one shot people. Might as well add gbombs and mind's super battle pack which are full of them if that's what you want sandbox to be.

They were made to be one shots that’s the purpose of the shotgun and the chainsaw.  With it in its original state, it’s still not as good as serious sam

[Zellogi]

They were made to be one shots that’s the purpose of the shotgun and the chainsaw.  

But that's not balanced. The whole point of the nerf was to balance the weapons. If we're going to unbalance everything, lets return the lightsaber to 100 damage per tick, give them force absorb back, unbalance all the serious sam snipers, etc. Your logic makes no sense.

With it in its original state, it’s still not as good as serious sam

Serious Sam isn't that good compared to the DOOM3 weapons. The single shotguns from SS1/SS2 do up to 140 damage if you land a headshot with every projectile, DOOM3 shotgun does 168 without needing a headshot, has no recoil, and has a spread like nothing. The Double Shotgun from SS1/SS2 does 168 damage if every projectile is a headshot, DOOM3 Super Shotgun does over 300 damage without needing a headshot. SS1/SS2 Chainsaws do 25 damage per hit, DOOM3 chainsaw does 50. So explain how they're inferior to serious sam?

[Ripjaw]

I vote no. DOOM3 guns were popular before Serious Sam. People like Serious Sam better so why change? M9K had its reign of glory and so did DOOM3. Until Sandbox gets another weapon pack, Serious Sam is going to be the popular set. Deal with it

[Dark Swordsman]

I only voted yes because I felt peer pressured by the "no, IM GAY" option.