report on Origami Toast

[Bengis]

distribution isnt against the rules
this e2 doesnt take any effort

The e2 doesnt take any effort for someone who is experienced with coding, youre forgetting that not everyone on this planet or on this server has the time, knowledge, or skill to make this thing. your argument is therefore invalid.

[M-E-T-A]

The e2 doesnt take any effort for someone who is experienced with coding, youre forgetting that not everyone on this planet or on this server has the time, knowledge, or skill to make this thing. your argument is therefore invalid.

One of his points is invalid not his argument as a whole there. He is correct in the part about distribution isnt against the rules.

[child beater 9k]

The e2 doesnt take any effort for someone who is experienced with coding, youre forgetting that not everyone on this planet or on this server has the time, knowledge, or skill to make this thing. your argument is therefore invalid.

I get your point but just with basic math, e2s pulled off of the internet, and some time staring at the function browser you could learn a lot in a very short span of time. Most of the time alex and I or just about anyone else put into these is making them look nice or needlessly complicated because it seems right.

[Bengis]

I get your point but just with basic math, e2s pulled off of the internet, and some time staring at the function browser you could learn a lot in a very short span of time. Most of the time alex and I or just about anyone else put into these is making them look nice or needlessly complicated because it seems right.

ok, but how does this justify breaking 2 rules and using an e2 so easily abusable that last night I literally turned it into a machine that fires a missile every 13 ticks and targets everyone on the map, as well as having infinite health and doing 500000 damage? Let's stay on the subject, please.

edit: after looking again, this e2 has the potential to easily break 6 rules.
Do not use E2 to target players without their consent
*Do not use PAC3 or E2 to gain an advantage in combat in any way possible.
Do not use Props, Entities, or E2 to remotely kill players. (Drones exempt)
*Do not spawn kill.
*Do not camp spawn.
Do not spam explosives.

[alexcat2]

ok, but how does this justify breaking 2 rules and using an e2 so easily abusable that last night I literally turned it into a machine that fires a missile every 13 ticks and targets everyone on the map, as well as having infinite health and doing 500000 damage? Let's stay on the subject, please.

edit: after looking again, this e2 has the potential to easily break 6 rules.
Do not use E2 to target players without their consent
*Do not use PAC3 or E2 to gain an advantage in combat in any way possible.
Do not use Props, Entities, or E2 to remotely kill players. (Drones exempt)
*Do not spawn kill.
*Do not camp spawn.
Do not spam explosives.

First, you are clearly bluffing/lying about your modifications to it. LFG has antispam. You cannot fire missiles that fast, and trying will lock you out of trying to place props for multiple minutes or even more. Please at least attempt to test stuff before you rant about it.

Also, what you are describing is basically Babies second e2 (third in my case. Two used props instead of bombs, one was a wiremod version of two). This really takes barely anything more then basic knowledge, you could understand most of it if I explained it over the course of 15 minutes. While it is powerful, its really nothing special, and people could easily make it themselves in a better version, so sharing one really isn't much of anything.

Third, as we have covered before, I did not use the e2 to break the rules, even though it has clear potential to do that. Its just like how admins are allowed to nuke with permission, I had permission from everyone who went near it when it was in testing. Beyond that, sharing is not illegal, and thus you cannot prosecute me for whatever you or anyone else does with the e2.

Fourth, the e2 only really fits half of those rules, even if it could be hit with all of them. Targeting with e2, advantage, and remote would be more or less valid, but anyone can camp spawn/spawn kill and spam explosives, and the e2 doesn't necessarily do either. If it's not at spawn, it wont have the range to attack spawn, unless you actually managed to modify it. It can't spawncamp, as LFS have spawn protection, and if you modified it to attack players it wouldn't even be connected to me. Explosives spam is in a weird state. While it does spawn a good amount of explosives, it has a slower sustained fire rate then any LFS with rockets, and can't blow up half the server (Saint please fix the rules, how are LFS worked into this?!)

Lastly, if you are asking us to stay on subject, wasn't the subject supposed to be Toast? I remember you targeting me first or second, congrats on the insane derail.

[child beater 9k]

ok, but how does this justify breaking 2 rules and using an e2 so easily abusable that last night I literally turned it into a machine that fires a missile every 13 ticks and targets everyone on the map, as well as having infinite health and doing 500000 damage? Let's stay on the subject, please.

edit: after looking again, this e2 has the potential to easily break 6 rules.
Do not use E2 to target players without their consent
*Do not use PAC3 or E2 to gain an advantage in combat in any way possible.
Do not use Props, Entities, or E2 to remotely kill players. (Drones exempt)
*Do not spawn kill.
*Do not camp spawn.
Do not spam explosives.

Ok so maybe I gave you a knife to stab someone with, but then you strap a rocket engine to it and send it into the White House.

[westernspy]

Ok so maybe I gave you a knife to stab someone with, but then you strap a rocket engine to it and send it into the White House.

Can you explain this in an ‘E2’ fashion?
I don’t fucking know what to say

[alexcat2]

Can you explain this in an ‘E2’ fashion?
I don’t fucking know what to say

I give you a toned down passion project mean't to look cool, that can't do that much in its current state.

You modify things. Remove health as a concept so it cant be destroyed, just remove the code that tells it to die. Make it spawn the explosives on or inside of the target, all that takes is to change a position marker. Make it instantly detonate them by adding a single line of code that damages the explosives to detonation. Change the search function to include players, its the same type of line as all of the other class lines.

Its not even that major of some changes, you have just replaced A with B in a few spots to improve how it works, and haven't really touched any of the framework of the code at all. The effect, however, would be massive on how well it works.

And thus, we essentially go from what was a very pretty knife to a knife that was super boosted and aimed at the worst target possible.

Lastly, I am not going to explain the actual code unless Saint himself asks for it, as you clearly aren't someone who can handle a super player exploder, and shouldn't get any help to make one.

[Bengis]

youre bluffing and i didnt break any rules

I'm not bluffing, ill even send you the e2 code.

13 is a rate that bypasses the antispam, as I figured out within 3.5 seconds through trial and error.

Your argument about how anyone could make this shit has already been disproven, not everyone has the time or knowledge to make these things.

This report isn't on you and it never was, so you can stop mentioning how you didn't break any rules because we already know that, you're just roped in because you made this thing and you sent it to all those people.

The e2 only fits half of those rules in its current state, what I'm saying is that any average joe jimbob retard can take that thing and turn it into a murder machine that kills the server.

Yes it was on origami, the reason I targeted you second was that you were the one who made this thing and distributed it.

[westernspy]

I'm not bluffing, ill even send you the e2 code.

13 is a rate that bypasses the antispam, as I figured out within 3.5 seconds through trial and error.

Your argument about how anyone could make this shit has already been disproven, not everyone has the time or knowledge to make these things.

This report isn't on you and it never was, so you can stop mentioning how you didn't break any rules because we already know that, you're just roped in because you made this thing and you sent it to all those people.

The e2 only fits half of those rules in its current state, what I'm saying is that any average joe jimbob retard can take that thing and turn it into a murder machine that kills the server.

Yes it was on origami, the reason I targeted you second was that you were the one who made this thing and distributed it.

i'm actually pretty sure origami made it, origami claimed he did