Parkour and plycore

[alexcat2]

I have been on for a while now and figured I had two cents to throw into the ring here.

The first issue I see is that LFG seems to love fast paced combat and movement akin to quake or unreal tournament then some of the more modern games like Rainbow 6 siege more focused on tactics. We added both AOT gear movement swords and a parkour swep, but both are melee, one is broken strong, one is broken weak, and neither create smooth easy movement making pvp less interesting.

I propose the addition of a small addon called Black Ops 3 Exosuit Movement.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f...1545679817
The addon is extremely lightweight and is very balanced/not abusable.

In terms of movement it will provide a nice boost to pvp capabilities by allowing advanced movement while allowing the use of regular weapons. It is also not broken because aiming will be harder given the newly created 3d movement, and the now more mobile weapons are still weaker then many drones, LFS aircraft, tanks, and more.

It defaults to being equipped on spawn and the sounds are somewhat annoying, but it is easily turned off in server settings (this turns it into a spawn-able pickup). If one wanted, it could even be added as a member only or donator only item to incentive membership or donations. 
I would also say the jump distance could use a small boost from the defaults because gmod does not come with ledge grabbing like Blackops would. Other then that the default settings feel fine as is.





My other suggestion is about plycore.

Currently, plycore is banned/disabled for all non admins because it was abused. However, it was abused by a very small minority, from what I remember it was literally only Nicegirl using it who got it banned.

Semi proof here, Saint you might remember more - https://lennyfacegaming.org/showthread.php?tid=7598
"I had a tracker that showed me all the players on the map then I had another one that makes me fly w/o buildmode useing space"

It is a very useful set of functions for interacting with the user and the player avatar. Many of the cooler pac3-like creations I wish to make with it are gated behind some of the disabled functions, and it would be nice to make a better debug system using its better messaging system. 

Keep in mind that it was one rouge player that caused this who hasn't been seen in over two years. We also have regular bans and the power to restrict rights or demote as punishment for abusing privledges or tricks on LFG. One bad egg should not permanently ruin the bunch. 

Also, if Saint or someone else feels that some of the functions are too powerful no matter what, it would still be nice to have the rest back. In specific it would be nice to have plyapplyforce() and plysetang().  I wish to obtain these so I can create meme displays such as Bulk Bogan the super wrestler or Jackie Chan the world's best martial artist. 

And again, there are already functions that are more powerful then the two that I listed. We have admins who can handle people who abuse such functions. If we didn't want any abuse to be possible we would have removed tanks so they can't spawncamp. 

If anyone has any suggestions relating to these, reply in the comments



EDIT: If I didn't make it clear, the BO3 exosuit is not a weapon its some form of togglable equippable. If it is added as a default you will never be free of it, and the noises can get annoying, especially in buildmode. This is why i suggested making it a spawnable item.

[Pasta10]

These are both great ideas, and the new exosuit could make combat more interesting

[UHC]

the BO3 exosuit movement is definitely a neat idea. as far as plycore goes, I know players like xenon would use it to abuse, but they still do it now without that function so it won't make much a difference

edit; the default settings are all really good. the only thing I would change is the thrust jump max energy to 5 so you can actually make use of it

[zackadiax247]

the BO3 exosuit movement is definitely a neat idea. as far as plycore goes, I know players like xenon would use it to abuse, but they still do it now without that function so it won't make much a difference

Yeah, Origami would likely abuse it. but we have admins and members with the ability to kick/ban and there is almost always a member at least on, so any abuse would likely be shut down pretty quickly, as with most E2 abuse that goes on.

[SaintLuther]

Yeah obviously not going to just whitelist plycore across the board... that has basically everything ULX has. Why not just make everyone admins? Can't understand how 5-0 people voted yes.

In specific it would be nice to have plyapplyforce() and plysetang()

nexusCore has applyPlayerForce which allows you to do the same thing as plyapplyforce, except only on yourself. As for plysetang I could probably allow you to use that on yourself as well.

[alexcat2]

Plycore documentation says it comes with configs to restrict to owner/buddies only, just like the rest of LFG (that being said it hasn't been updated in forever). I singled out the one/two functions for movement because I knew they were some of the acceptable ones compared to others. 

EDIT: both functions are disabled. I change the plycore request to be either or function, they are functionally identical in my mind.

[SaintLuther]

Plycore documentation says it comes with configs to restrict to owner/buddies only

True, but that still allows you to do things such as:
NoClip
God Mode
Unlimited Health/Armor
Change speed, jump power, gravity

[zackadiax247]

True, but that still allows you to do things such as:
NoClip
God Mode
Unlimited Health/Armor
Change speed, jump power, gravity

That may be true but members can vorekick/ban asw well as admins. so if there is any abuse it will be dealt with swiftly. there as almost always an admin, or at least a member on at any given time. i know from experience that E2 abuse gets you kicked/banned very quickly, even when ther arnt admins on. But we could just restrict it to member or donator rank. at the very least give it to premium donators.

[SaintLuther]

Why do you want to invite more abuse though? What do we have to gain by allowing everyone to do these things? With how chaotic the server currently is it blows my mind that seemingly everyone supports to idea of allowing anyone to turn on god mode and noclip so they can just fly around the map killing whoever they want. If the solution is to just ban people when they do it, why allow them to in the first place?

[PresentDr.]

I have no opinion on the plycore, but I do think that the bo3 movement after testing it with cw would be a really fun addon, it also wouldn't make wheatley's parkour obsolete.